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  Millions now living will never die (orginally "may" never die) was the WTS lying

  by blondie in

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  this was first said in 1918 and adjusted to "will never die" in 1920. of course, the wts taught that the anointed had to die to go to heaven; but there was no great crowd teaching then, so they were talking about all non-anointed people on earth.

  the wts members were known as bible students then and had been expecting the end in 1914 and it was adjusted.

  one date that was stressed at that time was 1925. so i think they idea was that people living in 1918 would be alive to see the end in 1925, which of course did not happen.

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  "Millions now living may/will never die"

  Pricks up ears, thinks: "What; never die?" I would like to know about this...Goes to meeting and finds hundreds of other punters duped into thinking the same way...

  It says it in the "Sacred revealed word of God; the Holy Bible written by the author who never lies!" The speaker said so, so hell! it must be true...

  ...............Or is it just the spiel of the snake oil salesman?

  Surely this is the whole JW story; the lure of everlasting life in paradise, join the culture of blind obedience followed up by crippling social penalties if you dare to change your mind.

  It was just the scam message from a Bible-cult folks................ heartily congratulate yourself if you have woken up and escaped!
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  New, but needed to vent- thank you :-)

  by Danni Jackson in

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  i discovered your website this morning as i was trying to find some information about 'marking'.

  you see a very close friend of mine was 'marked' earlier this week and as i know the ins and outs of the situation (as we are close friends) i disregarded the talk immediately as i know my friend is obviously having issues but is no way a 'danger' to anybody else's spiritual health.

  basically they are dating a non-believer- hence the talk.

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  Half banana

  Hi Danni, thanks for visiting here, you are most welcome.

  The love JW`s show is conditional love
  

  as Smiddy says above. It only appears like "love" if you praise the governing body...the slightest whiff of disagreement and you will be unlovingly be cast out out on your ear.

  Real life outside the org has problems as well but there is no hypocrisy like religious hypocrisy.

  Honest said,

  be a true unconditional friend. Your friend will be feeling humiliated, degraded, ashamed and lonely. An act of loving kindness can save someone.

  That is real friendship
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  Introduction

  by robrog8999 in

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  hello all.... i am new here so i figured i'd make a quick post introducing myself and giving a brief intro as to who i am and what i'm here for... as well as to hopefully meet others.. so, i made a profile and in it i gave a pretty detailed explanation as to my intent here and exactly why i decided to participate in the boards.

  in case you don't read it, i'll give a brief summary.

  the name is robert.

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  Half banana

  Arguing about doctrine is like arguing with alphabet soup.
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  FYI, Eloise Dupuis, 27, a JW, died last Wednesday in a Quebec hospital because she refused a blood transfusion

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  i just received the following message from a friend this morning.. barbara.

  eloise dupuis, 27 years old, died at the hotel dieu hospital in lévis, quebec, canada, wednesday, october 12th.

  she died because of her religious principles.

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  Half banana

  So very sad for this family and if they are to wake up from their religious delusion in the future, how much more tragic it will be to realize that the death of their loved one was avoidable.

  The JW org should be held to account for all of the deaths encouraged by pushing the no-blood dogma with its reckless disregard for precious human lives.

  The world must learn how dangerous this cult is.
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  Life after Armageddon in the new world A Paradise ? You be the Judge.

  by smiddy in

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  most , if not all of jw`s expect it to be paradise ,immediately.. how wrong can they be.. 8 billion + corpses lying around , oh thats right jehovah the magician will fix that with a wave of his wing.. their will not be education above 4th grade as higher education is frowned upon.. women will be restricted to sewing weaving and looking after their husbands needs , and looking after all the children being born to her husband and being in subjection to him.. how many women are in high profile positions in the world today ,including leaders of countries ,and other positions of power and influence ,even in male dominated fields of bygone years .. that will all be gone in the new system ,where women will be put in their place.. children will be forbidden from compettitive sports as thats not permitted anymore , no more tv games ,no more video games , no more just about anything that normal teenagers engage in today.. and no more tv except jw.org tv worldwide with no other channells.

  with higher education off the table society is going to slowly sink back to the dark ages and even the stone age.. think about it .

  no research in anything , not medical , scientific ,the arts music ,literature ,paintings space ,astronomy etc.etc.,simply because its not necessary now , why ?

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  Smiddy, as you point out when it comes down to the details it would be a Taliban hell...

  Fact is, it's just a dream, the Watchtower "paradise" is just a lure for the gullible to commit their lives to the cult leaders.
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  A JW Calling Down Evil Upon Others!

  by Divergent in

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  stash: /intesoft-inc.appspot.com/post/0185f744fb5e464488b296f2b74e4ccd.html

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  The JW religion is a paranoid perversion of truth.............

  Wakey wakey Jehovah's Witnesses!
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  Introduction

  by robrog8999 in

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  hello all.... i am new here so i figured i'd make a quick post introducing myself and giving a brief intro as to who i am and what i'm here for... as well as to hopefully meet others.. so, i made a profile and in it i gave a pretty detailed explanation as to my intent here and exactly why i decided to participate in the boards.

  in case you don't read it, i'll give a brief summary.

  the name is robert.

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  Half banana

  Robrog, thanks for coming here and well done in your desire for searching for what is right . You are twenty six, so you have had time to realize that there is actually more to life than religion.

  May I direct you to the possibility that religion is a political scheme of control based on the susceptibility of human nature towards a mystical resolution of all earthly problems.

  Have you considered that your introduction reveals that you are prepared to accept as truth only the things you will agree with such as the baseless notion that the Bible is inerrant and inspired by God?

  There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
  Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
  - Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio

  But I wish you well all the same.
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  Does becoming (or remaining) one of Jehovah's Witnesses result in Poverty? Pew Research results differ from Watchtower claims.

  by Balaamsass2 in

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  "raised in the truth" during the 50s, 60s,and 70s i repeatedly read and heard from the platform how reading the magazines weekly "was the equivalent of a college education" and how many had turned their family economic situation around by being "trustworthy" and giving up expensive bad habits most "worldly people" had.

  sounded good.. what is the reality?

  how does avoiding higher education, and then spending up to 20 hours a week getting ready for, commuting, and then participating in meetings and field service affect family finances?.

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  Half banana

  LongHairGal said,

  "Many Witnesses fall into the category of those who are just about making ends meet. They are hampered by the fact that they do not have a college degree, which is necessary in today's world".

  And it seems this is almost the exemplary form of JW culture; "followers" being forced by their poverty to remain dependent throughout their lives on the very doubtful wisdom and authority of the GB.

  
  
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  Does becoming (or remaining) one of Jehovah's Witnesses result in Poverty? Pew Research results differ from Watchtower claims.

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "raised in the truth" during the 50s, 60s,and 70s i repeatedly read and heard from the platform how reading the magazines weekly "was the equivalent of a college education" and how many had turned their family economic situation around by being "trustworthy" and giving up expensive bad habits most "worldly people" had.

  sounded good.. what is the reality?

  how does avoiding higher education, and then spending up to 20 hours a week getting ready for, commuting, and then participating in meetings and field service affect family finances?.

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  Half banana

  The org prefers compliant, uneducated followers since they are easier to hoodwink but not to be overlooked is the mental poverty of being a JW, wasting your life as a guilt ridden, good for nothing slave of the WTBTS.
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  Been witnessing today - first time in over 2 years!!

  by The Searcher in

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  2. beliefs

  and it felt wonderful!!.

  i went into the city to where i knew there was a "cosmopolitan witnessing" trolley, because i wanted to ask a simple bible-based question.

  the trolley was attended by an elder and a sister who was another elder's wife.

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  Half banana

  Well done Searcher! your witnessing seemed to get the right response which is to break through the JW force field, you got them to think and even change perspective...( perhaps you saw it as witnessing for Jesus and not as unwitnessing?)

  A JW is snug and smug in a kind of "locked-in" syndrome. For the individual it is very destabilizing and painful to contemplate opposing the cult teachings, it invites social rejection from community and family since culture conformity is the most powerful drive of human behaviour.

  With the decline of d2d preaching, cart witnessing alongside TV evangelism, is the new push and this makes the carts a prime target for us. There used to be a lot in London, but in recent months they have not been present in my neck of the woods to allow me to unwitness there.

  Have the GB realized what sitting ducks the cart people are, vulnerable to better informed ex-JWs?